Thursday, January 27, 2011

40k characters (specifically marines)

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A day or two ago a classmate of mine found out I played 40k and then proceeded to ask me a series of annoying questions about me playing wolves and what I thought about them and the other marine special characters.

More on that later.

Here's the Q&A of him asking me about wolves:

Q: Do you like playing wolves?
A: If I didn't I wouldn't play them.

Q: Blood Claws seem really good, since they have 4 attacks on the charge!
A: No they're not good.
Q: There not?
A: No. Because sure they get 4 attacks on the charge, but they will always be hitting on 4's or 5's, you can't re-roll those, not to mention if they're within 6-12 inches of an enemy unit they can't shoot unless there's an independent character or a pack leader with them, which is a stupid thing to do. The only way I'd use them is in a pack of 15 with a wolf priest in a land raider crusader, but then I'd be paying over 600 points for one unit, which is a fucking stupid thing to do.
Q: So, Grey Hunters are better?
A: Duh. In 40k you want units that can "Hold the hill," and Grey Hunters are fucking great at that. They're like Space Marines, but have more perks and the load-out of a Chaos Marine (which is damn good). So you're next question is going to be about Pack Leaders, which I will answer is stupid, if you have a unit of 10, you pay cheaply for a special weapon and the next one is free. The extra point to leadership isn't too bad since they have ATSKNF.

Q: Are Long Fangs good?
A: A bear shits in woods. Yes they're good. They can get 5 heavy weapons for cheap and each one can fire at a different target. Does that sound good to you, cause it sounds good to me.

Q: Do you take powerfists?
A: Yeah, because I want at least one thing in a unit to be able to take down a wraithlord in close combat.

(Wolves special characters time)
Q: I think Njal in terminator armor is pretty good, what do you think?
A: No, he's not good in terminator armor, or in general. Why? He's too expensive and doesn't do enough. With terminator armor he's 270 points, I could get a pack of Grey Hunters and unit of Wolf Scouts for that. His one thing, the changing weather shit, is not good because it's too small and doesn't do enough. Sure, he knows all the wolves psychic powers, but most of those aren't really good, and the few that are only really work against certain armies. He's not worth it. Period.

Q: What about Blackmane?
A: Too generic and too expensive for what he does. Enough said.

Q: Then what SC's do you like?
A: Cainis and Bjorn. Cainis because I run two units of thunderwolves and I want someone other than a Wolflord to lead the second, he does a good job of doing that, I've killed wraith lords with him. Bjorn because he's a fucking dreadnought, chances are in close combat enemies won't be able to hit him because they'll need 6's, and unless they have melta bombs or a power fist chances are they won't be able to hurt him either. Every time I've used him he's earned his points back. And then some.

(Blood Angels and Vanilla marines SC time)
Q: What do you think about Calgar?
A: He's alright. Expensive, but alright. The "God of War" rule is fucking stupid since it's chapter tactics, they just felt the need to make him seem better and put "God of War" in there.

Q: Ko'Sarro Khan is pretty good, I've used him, what do you think?
A: You're an idiot, but what else is new? Probably the only reason he's been good to you is the people you play against are morons, because he's an easy character to get killed, and expensive again. The only way to make him good is to put him on a bike, which is 45 points and does shit. I just need to unload with missile launchers and lascannons into his squad and he'll die.

Q: Ok, um, Blood Angels, what do you think about the sanguinor?
A: First off, his name is fucking stupid. Second off, he's too expensive and lacks the Independent Character rule, meaning he will get shot at a lot and die. If he had IC, he'd be a little more worth it, but he doesn't so he's not.

Q: Tycho?
A: Too fucking boring. I'd rather take a nameless character.

Q: Seth?
A: The one character I'd use, because he could kill a land raider and he's 160 points. I'm sorry, that's fucking good.

If I seemed rude it's because this guy was an idiot, asking me a bunch of stupid questions, getting the 40k fluff wrong (It was half the Raven Guard that turned, why do you think they're gene seed is so mutated?) and wouldn't leave me alone.

Piece of advise about talking or playing 40k, know what to do and know about what you're talking about, seriously. This really annoyed me, and chances are it'll annoy any other 40k player.

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